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there in washington as we wait for the white puff of smoke to come out of the white house, eamon. >> reporter: kind of what feels like here, bill. a lot of energy at the white house, a lot of curiosity surrounding this meeting. what you can't see from here and what i can't show you, unfortunately, is just about 50 yards from here is where you saw speaker boehner walking into the building, and we've got a whole cadre of white house still press photographers up on ladders peering over the hedge trying to get a picture of the leaders as they walk in and just to the left of that crowd is another crowd of reporters all gathered around the stakeout cameras. that's where the leaders could come out and talk to microphones if they wanted to say anything after this meeting. there's a lot of anticipation of whether they will say anything after this meeting, and it's widely seen that this would be a good sign for negotiations if they do come out and talk. a lot of previous white house meetings, they have not come out to say anything afterwards, so all those folks waiting over there might be waiting in vain her
, based on what we know right now about the various details of what they're talking about in washington, you've liked stocks anyway. is this framework they're talking about a green light to buy stocks for you? >> it is. yes. we were pretty optimistic going into 2013. this just improves the outlook. >> in what way? how? >> well, i think some finality around where taxes are going to be is going to be very, very helpful. we can manage around the different tax rates in terms of capital gains issues and whatnot within portfolio locations. so knowing what those rates are going to be in managing around that will be helpful. stocks right now attractive from a valuation standpoint. i think it'll be a good 2013. >> brad fredelander, you have been skeptical of the market. does this deal help, do you think? >> well, it's certainly good news. i think -- i do have some concern that the market es at this point are in more fiscal harmony than the discord we've been seeing. we still have within six to eight weeks the debt limit issues as well. so i think there are going to be some hurdles early in the y
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